certo and grape juice

Overcome Arthritis with Juice from the Kitchen?

No one really knows where most home remedies come from or why they work. Former Governor of Texas, Sam Houston (from “remember the Alamo fame”) was purported to have developed an arthritis remedy involving a combination of apple and grape juice plus apple cider vinegar (ACV). The Vermont country doctor (D.C. Jarvis) promoted a drink containing 8 oz. of water, 2 tsp. ACV and 2 tsp. honey.

Some readers have taken to combining these ingredients to relieve joint pain as this couple did:

Q. My husband and I are interested in arthritis remedies. We’ve been taking cider vinegar and honey in a cup of hot water to ease the pain in our finger joints.

Even so, my husband’s thumbs hurt so much he could hardly grasp anything, and I recently developed a hard painful lump on my right ring finger.

We read in your column about a solution of five parts grape juice, three parts apple juice and one part cider vinegar. Then we also read about Certo and grape juice. We decided to combine these remedies and added two parts of Certo to the apple-grape-cider mixture.

Within a couple of weeks the lump on my finger went away and the finger became less painful and stiff. It must have been the Certo. What does it do?

A. We wish we could tell you. The Certo and grape juice remedy has been used for decades to relieve joint pain. Certo is liquid plant pectin. Home canners use it to “stiffen” jams and jellies.

There’s no scientific research on this remedy, but we’re delighted you got such relief for your joint pain. Research suggests that grape juice has anti-inflammatory properties.

Anyone who would like to know more about this and many other popular arthritis remedies may download our Guide to Alternatives for Arthritis.

Another reader wrote about her experience:

“My sister who has had one hip replaced twice was having days where she could not hardly move until mid afternoon because of arthritis pains. I told her about the pectin (Certo) and grape juice, and being my older sister I didn’t think she would listen but she called and said she was starting. I told her don’t expect anything overnight it will take a couple of weeks.

“In the meantime, I had been having ‘hippy’ type of flare ups myself so I thought what is good for the goose is good for the gander and went and got my bottle of Welch’s grape juice and packet of liquid Certo and off I went.

“I have to tell you BOTH of us are feeling the results…when my sister told me she was so much better, I was like harrah harrah… she listened.”

If you would like to see how to make the classic Certo and grape juice formula or the Sam Houston drink, here is a video to show you how they are prepared. Download our Guide to Alternatives for Arthritis for written details and many other remedies for joint pain.

Revised January 21, 2016

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  1. Abigail
    Reply

    The Pomona pectin website above has a very useful store locator.

  2. frenagd
    az
    Reply

    The sad thing is that it would have been pretty easy for medical researchers to have found out by now just how acidic and sweet food chemicals affect the pain receptors activated in arthritis and muscle pain conditions.

    Only, alas, modern medical research is only ever about funding expensive new drugs, never about finding effective help resources from daily food and drink.

    So instead of being all folksy and saying “Golly gee, we just don’t know why your old Grannie’s recipe worked!”, try some scientific integrity and look out the research, Because you two know and we know, it certainly has been done. Done and buried, because researchers don’t actually have that kind of integrity in these drug dominant days.

  3. Linda
    charlotte nc
    Reply

    Good morning,’m

    I’m mixing certo and 100% welch’s fiber grape juice how much do I mix for a week supply and how do I store the remainings of the certo I have 2 6oz pouches I will just open 1 pouch.

  4. Julie
    the great state of Kansas
    Reply

    I have arthritic finger joints and bad back pain. I refuse to take any more pills or prescription meds that always seem to cause side effects on me. I finally had to try liquid pectin with grape juice. Since grape juice is good and so is cherry juice, it can still be boring to drink the same thing every day.

    I have been trying different things such as substituting the fruit juice nectars in cans in the grocery stores (JUMEX brand) to mix the pectin in. I use 1 TBSP of liquid pectin in 8 ounces of fruit juice nectar. Since there are 11 or so ounces in a can, I will pour out 3 cans of the same flavor, put approximately 8 ounces or so in reusable plastic bottles and put 1 TBSP of liquid pectin in each one, shake it up, and drink one per day at lunch at work.

    It seems to work just as good as grape juice. I also take a dose of gin-soaked raisins every other day. The JUMEX fruit nectars come in pure pineapple juice nectar, apricot nectar, mango, guava, strawberry-banana nectar and a couple of other nectars. They make great add-ins for smoothies also. By the way, the horrible pain is gone.

  5. C
    NC
    Reply

    I watched the video about the mixing of certo and juces and have one concern. The juices shown in that video were in plastic bottles. You are consuming the chemicals in the plastic with your juice drink. I no longer buy anything that is in plastic bottles. Limits me but at least that is less chemicals going into my body.
    I also contacted each company that went from glass to plastic container and told them I would no longer be buying their product and why. There are companies that still use glass bottles for their juices. You have to look and speak up to the companies that use plastic.

  6. Lynn
    Seattle
    Reply

    Having read the natural options for controlling arthritis pain, I’m curious about solutions for the inflammation resulting from arthritis. Are the natural options potentially as useful of inflammation?

  7. May
    FL
    Reply

    I tried the Certo and grape juice for knee pain but unfortunately it did not work for me. The first thing I notice when taking it is that it was so bitter!! After a couple of tries I gave up as it wasn’t working for me but the worst thing was the bitterness of the taste.

  8. Diana
    Boone, NC
    Reply

    I have to wonder if the juice in the certo receipe (and perhaps the certo also) is good for those who are diabetic or pre-diabetic. The sugar content and carb count(s) would be out of sight if consumed everyday. I have yet to see a juice that is low in carbs and sugar – I do not know about the certo.

  9. LYNND
    Reply

    FYI, to those who tend toward constipation: Speaking from personal experience, I do not recommend pectin, at least not to the concentration levels involved in this Certo+Grape Juice remedy. Apparently, pectin is better known for its ability to regulate loose bowels (studied in children with dysentery, for instance). Consuming Certo with plenty of juice/water did not alleviate its ability slow bowel motility in my case!
    Now for my experience with Certo’s purported pain-relieving properties: Over the past month, I tried the Certo with juice technique in spite of my concern that the ingredients include lactic acid — the substance responsible for sore muscles — and sodium benzoate, a controversial preservative. (Allegedly, vitamin C in combination with sodium benzoate may convert to benzene, a carcinogen.) Still, I persevered, using up the entire pack of Certo at the rate of two tablespoons per day in a glass of 100% cherry juice (I am not a fan of grape juice, alas).
    Typically, I consumed my daily dose in the evening before dinner. Most notably, the Certo+Juice combination seemed to work best to reduce appetite thanks to the fiber content. Unfortunately, the remedy did not reduce my joint pain and may have made my chronic low back pain, in particular, worse. I suspect that because the nerves to the bowel and the low back are adjacent or interconnected, the Certo-induced slowdown of my bowel exacerbated my chronic low back pain.
    I began drinking aloe vera juice along with a daily OTC probiotic tablet for relief, but only upon running out of my supply of Certo did my *intensified* levels of low back pain subside. (Whether this was truly the fault of my slowed digestive tract or the presence of lactic acid in the Certo, I cannot say for certain; I share only my suspicions.)
    Although I cannot report success with the Certo remedy, I do think there may be something to the “apple a day” approach — anecdotally a nutrient or substance would seem to be responsible for the success some have with Certo and other apple-based remedies. On my worth-trying list, for instance, are Malic Acid and Quercetin, also found in apples as well as supplement form, the latter of which are also touted for relieving inflammation-related discomfort. Likewise, there are those who report that Apple Cider Vinegar (ACV), also works wonders for joint pain.
    From what I’ve read, ACV in liquid form can erode tooth enamel whereas online reviews for ACV caplets seem to yield similar success for joint-pain sufferers. In summary, there are many accounts of reduced joint pain with this and other apple-derived nutrients. I have not given up!

    • Mary
      Reply

      It’s probably a good idea to rinse the mouth with plain water after taking anything with ACV in it.

      DO NOT brush immediately after anything highly acidic.

  10. Cindy B.
    Reply

    Thank you, Kay_Serasera…. I appreciate your reply. The liquid it is!! Cheers, Cindy B.

  11. juliansw.
    Reply

    My mother had lots of pain due to arthritis but she has adopted for some of the herbal ways of dealing with it for instant relief but after few months the pain started to aggravate so now looking for some substitutes that would help. I hope this would be one.

  12. Kay_Serasera
    Reply

    Cindy B., it has to be the liquid pectin. I had the same idea as you and tried everything to make the powdered pectin work, but finally gave up on it. However – – it does not have to be the Certo brand. At our market, the Ball brand costs about half as much and works just the same.

  13. Ann T
    Reply

    I drank Certo and Welch’s grape juice for a while, and it helped. When I read that the juice (and also apple juice) contained small amounts of arsenic, I stopped. Not sure it’s totally healthy.
    PEOPLE’S PHARMACY RESPONSE: Rice may pose a higher risk from arsenic than grape juice, but each of us must choose the level of risk we tolerate.

  14. Ladyliza
    Reply

    Whenever anyone starts using glucosamine or chondroiten, I suggest they have their 1AC sugar levels checked regularly. For some people, it can raise your sugar and cholesterol too high. For others, no change.

  15. D L
    Reply

    My husband was having a lot of pain in his knee so I suggested he try a remedy I had heard of using Knox plain gelatin mixed into a cup of grape juice. He had less pain after a few weeks of that but decided to try adding glucosamine, chondrotin, and msn to his regimen. His pain was drastically reduced after a few more weeks. I am convinced that he avoided a knee transplant.

  16. TAAmy
    Reply

    Most supermarkets do carry Certo. Check in the aisle where they sell Jello. The store in my area with the best price for Certo is Walmart. In their drygoods department in the summer they sometimes have twin packs in the home canning department. Or again look in their supermarket section where the Jello is. Of course it’s not a gelatin but stores don’t know where else to stock it (and the name Sure-gel makes them stock it there).
    I’ve used Certo for many years. Add a bit of sour cherry concentrate and dilute it with some spring water for less sweet taste. If I can find it, I prefer Kedem pure grape juice as it’s less sweet. The dry does not mix as well. I bought some in a health food store for my husband (said to be good for the prostate) and the only way we could manage to consume it was to mix it in yogurt.

  17. Ladyliza
    Reply

    I have found the best remedy for bursitis is turmeric. The key is getting the right dosage, so you may have to play with it over a few months. I had loads of bursitis in my knees. Then I read about turmeric and my pain began to dissipate. I have never liked the taste of turmeric, so I bought the pills. But it’s far cheaper to go to an indian grocery store and buy it in a bag.
    Swanson’s has a good brand. The more mg the better in 1 pill because in the beginning you want to take alot. Start with 2200 mg/day in divided doses. My doctor says you can take a high dosage. IT won’t hurt you. Try that for 2months and if you are still in pain, up the dose. I took just under 5000mg a day for awhile. I could barely walk with my hip and knee pain after being on statins. Now I take about 1 tsp/day. It prevents inflammation.
    PEOPLE’S PHARMACY RESPONSE: Just a word or two of warning. Anyone on warfarin (Coumadin) should avoid turmeric. And be aware that some people become allergic to it.

    • mary
      Reply

      I thought it was necessary to consume black pepper with turmeric to have it be effective. True or false?

  18. Cindy B.
    Reply

    Guess I forgot to check the “notify me….” box, and now I have to submit another comment to make that request! So here it is. Cheers.

  19. Cindy B.
    Reply

    Certo can be hard to find in stores. Only Safeway, of the stores near me, carries it. But most stores DO have packages of “dry pectin,” which is used for exactly the same purposes as the liquid pectin (Certo). My question: would the dry pectin work as well as the liquid pectin? The dry is a lot cheaper, too, by the way.

  20. Ladyliza
    Reply

    I lost 5 pounds the first go around with ACV. I was using it for arthritis pain so the weight loss was an added bonus. But then I didn’t use it for awhile and the second go around I didn’t lose any at all. The one thing I think it did for me was to clean out my arteries. I had an imt test done this year on my corotid artery and it came out pretty clean for someone my age and with my eating habits (high fat diet) I had read about it for this so I am going to do it again for about a year. It takes time but am pretty sure it works.

  21. Adrienne Pilon
    Reply

    Does it matter if you use another brand of pectin? Certo has some sort of preservative in it and I steer away from “extra” ingredients. Would apple pectin work as well?
    Thanks
    PEOPLE’S PHARMACY RESPONSE: You might want to try Pomona’s pectin. http://www.pomonapectin.com

  22. Dorothy L.
    Reply

    Anyone, know anything about mild hypercalcemia? Parathyroid giving mixed results, I have had slightly high serum calcium for 3-4 years. Dr’s ignored it. I am getting some nausea, lots of flatulence with pain & more joint pain plus too tired, I am old, but my family has longevity. I know of no Calcium or parathyroid problems, and I have a very large family. I want some overdue routine test done. I do not feel that I have a malignancy, but time for chest xray, mammo., and maybe another colonoscopy. I do not really feel that I need another colonoscopy in my 80’s, I have never had a polyp.

    • Mary
      Reply

      Vitamin K2, MK7, helps calcium go where it is useful and stay away from the blood where it can be harmful.

  23. Susan
    Reply

    For thumb pain, I have used sliced fresh ginger soaked in a medium deep bowl of very hot water; thumbs for 5-10 minutes when the water won’t burn you. This method helped me enormously.
    For all over body inflammation that I recently suffered with, from shoulders down to back and legs, I finally tried a Curcumin supplement. After one dose, I felt a great improvement of about 90%. Some have other herbs and substances like Boswellian, glucosamine, etc. I take this daily now. I am 71 years old, in good health but with the usual complaints of aging–pains come and go, some do not go as fast as they used to.

  24. ICR
    Reply

    Is Turmeric supplements good for Bursitis??? I recently had left knee cartilage repaired. After three months of my surgery, I have developed Bursitis on same left leg. It is so painful I have difficulty walking and painful on my thigh muscle. Dr. offered cortizon shots but I refused. What is the best natural remedy for Bursitis and what causes Bursitis?
    PEOPLE’S PHARMACY RESPONSE: Bursitis is inflammation, but we don’t always know the cause. Turmeric is anti-inflammatory and might be helpful.

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